Shop Rules

Feb. 12th, 2010 09:52 pm
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We've had a busy few weeks at the shop -- before, during and after FC. We've also done a major re-org of the interior layout, making it more functional and more social at the same time. This is having both good and bad effects. Unfortunately, that means it's time to start setting up a few rules. Until this point we've just kind of winged it.

This post is my first-pass attempt at some ground rules. This will get refined over time.


The What and Where:

"The Shop" is a light-industral rented space in southern San Jose. While the location isn't exactly a secret, I'm not going to constantly re-post its address in LJ or other public forums. It's a combination workshop, warehouse and 'maker space'. It has tools for laser cutting/engraving, large format printing, automotive/motorcycle work, electronics prototyping/assembly, set construction, audio work and costuming. It's also capable of hosting some pretty wicked parties.

The Who:

When it comes to the actual lease and insurance, everything is in my name. All legal stuff, payments and such are my responsibility. This means I end up as the 'final say' on things should conflict arise.

When it comes to matters of access, permission to use the site, and the yes/no on events, all paying members of the shop have a say. The actual "Paying Members" of the shop: [ profile] tugrik, [ profile] revar, [ profile] smackjackal, and [ profile] reveille_d.

Two people, [ profile] dustykat and [ profile] cooner, have physical key access as well and can approve others to come use the space when needed. They can be overruled by the paying members if needed (but I seriously doubt that'd be needed).

The When:

Monday through Thursday it's a private office & workspace for the people listed above. Please get permission before coming over; if we're here we're most likely doing actual work and not just hanging out socially. Feel free to contact us about visiting at any time, but don't just show up and walk in without us knowing. Think of it as "by appointment only".

Friday after 6:00pm it's pretty much Open Shop if at least one of us is here. Feel free to just drop by and hang out if you want. Call first if you want to make sure we're here, though! If we're all out and about you'd find a locked door instead.

Saturdays and Sundays are much more open format than the weekdays, but we'd still appreciate at least some general scheduling. All of us and our friends are in-and-out all through the weekend, so you can usually knock on the door and find us here and willing to socialize. But unlike Friday hang-out night, no guarantees. If a big project is going on we may not have time to just chill with folks.


And now, the Basic Rules. This is the list that will expand and refine as the others from the shop chip in. First, what you should keep in mind if you want to visit:

  • If you're bringing others with you, let us know at least roughtly how many. We enjoy friends-of-friends but need to know before a ton of folks just wander in the door because 'their buddy is here'.
  • If you're coming to work on something and not just hang out, please let us know the scope of what you intend to do. We've had problems with "can you help me with one small thing" turning into a 12 hour marathon session without warning, which impacts other schedules.
  • Always ask permission before using any tool. It's a shared space but not all the tools are everybody's to use. Just because it's out on a workbench doesn't mean it's up for grabs.
  • If you don't know how to use a tool, ask us to show you how first. The worst sin of the shop is to pick up a powertool you know nothing about and hit the trigger to see what it does. This can -- and will -- get you thrown out the door, bit, or both.
  • If you're visiting to use power tools, bring safety goggles and wear appropriate clothing. I don't care if it's a hot summer day; using the plasma cutter in sandals simply won't be allowed.
  • Rum Runner Studios -- located upstairs in the shop -- is off limits unless explicitly approved by [ profile] smackjackal. It's not considered one of the 'shared spaces' of the shop. Smackjackal also wants to preserve the confidentiality of clients' projects.
  • in a similar fashion, the extreme NW corner of the shop behind the motorcycles belongs exclusively to [ profile] dustykat. He keeps his professional gear there and it's not for general shop use. Get his permission before using any item from that area.
  • Most importantly: At least one of the people in "The Who" list above must be present while you're in the shop. This is for both security and insurance issues. If we have to leave, you have to leave.

Next up, general behavior things. This is pretty simple, common-sense stuff:

  • The most important thing: work and projects comes before hanging out and partying. Unless it's an event or a 'casual friday', don't show up just wanting to play rock band on the 15' projector wall. Others trying to get work done will ask you to stop. If you just want to visit to play games or watch TV, come visit us at our house instead! We love visitors!
  • Clean up after yourself. Many fine trashcans and full dumpster service are provided.
  • If you use the last of something (towels, chemicals, supplies, bottled water, TP, etc) let us know so we know to replace it.
  • If you're working on a project you'll be assigned a storage location for it and any of your own tools/supplies you brought. Please put all your stuff in that location before you leave, so the general work areas are clear for the next person.
  • If you're using a dangerous tool, make sure everybody in the shop knows before you fire it up. Shout it out; keep folks aware and safe.


Revar, Smackjackal, Reveille, Dusty, Cooner: Please add your own input on this in the comments below, and I'll update/edit this post.

Heck -- does anybody think it's a good idea if I make an independent LJ/Twitter/etc account setup for the shop itself?

Date: 2010-02-13 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Here's to hoping your banned list stays empty for years to come!

Date: 2010-02-13 07:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I'd find a twitter status for the shop handy mostly because I don't always know a week in advance if I'm planning on working on a project and being able to check twitter to see if anyone's about and available would make me feel less like a pest than asking all the time.

Date: 2010-02-13 07:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Seconded. Could probably make a gadget that would automatically tweet "Shop open" and "shop closed" too. ;)

Date: 2010-02-13 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
A shop LJ would be good, and a shop Twitter would probably make me break down and get a real Twitter Account.

I'd love to come by every now and then just to LEARN TO USE the tools. I don't have any specific projects in mind right now, but I Wanna Learn New Skills.

Even if I don't come up with any brilliant inspirations of my own, I'd like to be able to offer an extra pair of trained hands when y'all DO have one of those Big Projects mentioned above.

Date: 2010-02-13 03:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zeeth_kyrah
I'll pretty much echo this. Not that I'm even located where I could join in, but just dropping by to help someone else so I can learn how it's done would be fun for me.

Date: 2010-02-13 07:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]

Date: 2010-02-13 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
This is all very reasonable, and nice to read. I'm sure that Michael and I will take advantage of the space and tools at some point. It's kind of you to offer them, and open your "home away from home" to us. <3

I've found on several occasions since I've moved out that I'm missing my Dad's shop and tools. "Oh I'll just clean up these dremmel. I need to trim saw."

I totally want to hang with you some more, and do some costume scheming in person. *nods*

Date: 2010-02-13 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I'm going to suggest using a service like to set up a community for this. I recommend Ning because it includes event calendar functionality, scheduling, and a bunch of other community-focused tools highly appropriate and relevant to what you're doing. And the price is right.

I suggest you add:

You won't be allowed to use advanced equipment like the plasma cutter, the milling machine or the laser until you're trained on it.
You WILL sign a release indemnifying us before you touch a single power tool. No exceptions. Just because you take responsibility for cutting off your own head doesn't mean your estate's lawyer will.
Bring your own raw materials. Don't grab "scraps" that are "lying around". (links to places to buy raw materials like Tap Plastics or Metal Mart)

Date: 2010-02-13 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
If someone is visiting from out of town and would like to take a peek at the shop, maybe even talk some shop (so to speak), how does one make arrangements to do so?

Date: 2010-02-13 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
We've been trying to drag you over here forever. :) Though alas, we're so woefully underequipped in the woodworking department, both in tools and experience...

Just drop me a line at so I can make sure you have my ph#, and just call any time.

Date: 2010-02-13 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Gotcha, I'll send a message when I'm about to leave.

Date: 2010-02-13 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Sounds like reasonable rules. :)

Date: 2010-02-13 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I *so* wish I were local to you; this is the sort of thing I need in my life right now, a place like this to go to be a part of cool projects. There's nothing like this in my area and my local friends don't seem to have the interest.

I hope you can keep this going for a long time. :)

Date: 2010-02-13 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Ever since reading about people ripping off your soda, I've been hoping to see y'all put something like this in effect. Hooray for putting your huge gentle hoof down! :) I still really regret not getting to come by with Peg and visit during FC, but we're hoping to make it down there after we've flipped coasts for good. Best of luck! *hug*

Date: 2010-02-14 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I think your rules seem very fair. I wish I lived closer, I'd really would love to see your shop. As a graphic designer, I would really like to spend a few years of my career working on the printer-end of things so that I have a well-rounded work experience.
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